I went letterboxing with daughteroftheolddominion at Lake Anna State
Park near Fredericksburg, Virginia recently, and it took us about four
hours to find most of the boxes there. Admittedly, I needed a break
here and there, so I'm sure other boxers wouldn't need four hours per
se, yet there's no denying that the distances are rather great between
each box at this park, and judging by the comments in some of the
logbooks, I wasn't the only boxer who found all the footwork in this
large state park challenging.
Large distances between individual boxes is also true for another
Virginia state park, Pocahontas. And there seem to be a lot more hills
at Pocahontas, too.
In my limited boxing experience, Pocahontas would seem to be the most
challenging spot in Virginia to look for boxes. Anyone agree? Disagree?
What about other states? And is this spot difficult because of the
terrain, the sheer number of boxes there, the complicated clues, or what?
BTW, daughteroftheolddominion and I found 5 of the 6 Lake Anna boxes,
and they were all intact. We also found Jolly G-Man's Mr. Lee and Mr.
Grant duo, and they were in good shape, too, although I'm not sure how
safe Mr. Lee will be in the future because houses are being built all
around his hiding spot. :(
-- Marsha
Your State's Most Challenging Place to Box?
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Your State's Most Challenging Place to Box?
From: mlgainey (mlgainey@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2002-11-13 05:08:57 UTC
Re: Your State's Most Challenging Place to Box?
From: schizokeet (Beckyrink@hotmail.com) |
Date: 2002-11-13 11:15:52 UTC
Are there really 6 boxes at Lake Anna? Where are the clues for the
letterboxes at Lake Anna State Park. Are they listed in
Frederickersburg or somewhere else?? I tied Pocahontas park when I
was visiting Richmond one day I enjoyed the hike but only found 2 of
the boxes. Although we were very sure we were close to 2 of them but
couldn't find them. We had a long drive there and got a late starte
but great park. I didn't think it was too long just was racing the
sun setting. Thanks
Becky
--- In letterbox-usa@y..., "mlgainey" wrote:
> I went letterboxing with daughteroftheolddominion at Lake Anna State
> Park near Fredericksburg, Virginia recently, and it took us about
four
> hours to find most of the boxes there. Admittedly, I needed a break
> here and there, so I'm sure other boxers wouldn't need four hours
per
> se, yet there's no denying that the distances are rather great
between
> each box at this park, and judging by the comments in some of the
> logbooks, I wasn't the only boxer who found all the footwork in this
> large state park challenging.
>
> Large distances between individual boxes is also true for another
> Virginia state park, And there seem to be a lot more hills
> at Pocahontas, too.
>
> In my limited boxing experience, Pocahontas would seem to be the
most
> challenging spot in Virginia to look for boxes. Anyone agree?
Disagree?
>
> What about other states? And is this spot difficult because of the
> terrain, the sheer number of boxes there, the complicated clues, or
what?
>
> BTW, daughteroftheolddominion and I found 5 of the 6 Lake Anna
boxes,
> and they were all intact. We also found Jolly G-Man's Mr. Lee and
Mr.
> Grant duo, and they were in good shape, too, although I'm not sure
how
> safe Mr. Lee will be in the future because houses are being built
all
> around his hiding spot. :(
>
> -- Marsha
letterboxes at Lake Anna State Park. Are they listed in
Frederickersburg or somewhere else?? I tied Pocahontas park when I
was visiting Richmond one day I enjoyed the hike but only found 2 of
the boxes. Although we were very sure we were close to 2 of them but
couldn't find them. We had a long drive there and got a late starte
but great park. I didn't think it was too long just was racing the
sun setting. Thanks
Becky
--- In letterbox-usa@y..., "mlgainey"
> I went letterboxing with daughteroftheolddominion at Lake Anna State
> Park near Fredericksburg, Virginia recently, and it took us about
four
> hours to find most of the boxes there. Admittedly, I needed a break
> here and there, so I'm sure other boxers wouldn't need four hours
per
> se, yet there's no denying that the distances are rather great
between
> each box at this park, and judging by the comments in some of the
> logbooks, I wasn't the only boxer who found all the footwork in this
> large state park challenging.
>
> Large distances between individual boxes is also true for another
> Virginia state park, And there seem to be a lot more hills
> at Pocahontas, too.
>
> In my limited boxing experience, Pocahontas would seem to be the
most
> challenging spot in Virginia to look for boxes. Anyone agree?
Disagree?
>
> What about other states? And is this spot difficult because of the
> terrain, the sheer number of boxes there, the complicated clues, or
what?
>
> BTW, daughteroftheolddominion and I found 5 of the 6 Lake Anna
boxes,
> and they were all intact. We also found Jolly G-Man's Mr. Lee and
Mr.
> Grant duo, and they were in good shape, too, although I'm not sure
how
> safe Mr. Lee will be in the future because houses are being built
all
> around his hiding spot. :(
>
> -- Marsha
Re: Your State's Most Challenging Place to Box?
From: Janet (moonstone_baby@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2002-11-13 13:12:49 UTC
I have found the most challenging boxes in my state, Rhode Island, to
be "Feathers in your Cap." (although I have not done "Blurred
Borders" yet and it sound just as tough.) This is a series of 4
letterboxes over approx. 10 miles in a state forest. The clues are
given all in compass bearings from landmarks which makes it tough if
you mix up a landmark somewhere in the 10 miles. It took me 6 1/2
hours to complete the series. I must say that I did enjoy the
challenge.
moonstone_baby
--- In letterbox-usa@y..., "mlgainey" wrote:
> I went letterboxing with daughteroftheolddominion at Lake Anna State
> Park near Fredericksburg, Virginia recently, and it took us about
four
> hours to find most of the boxes there. Admittedly, I needed a break
> here and there, so I'm sure other boxers wouldn't need four hours
per
> se, yet there's no denying that the distances are rather great
between
> each box at this park, and judging by the comments in some of the
> logbooks, I wasn't the only boxer who found all the footwork in this
> large state park challenging.
>
> Large distances between individual boxes is also true for another
> Virginia state park, Pocahontas. And there seem to be a lot more
hills
> at Pocahontas, too.
>
> In my limited boxing experience, Pocahontas would seem to be the
most
> challenging spot in Virginia to look for boxes. Anyone agree?
Disagree?
>
> What about other states? And is this spot difficult because of the
> terrain, the sheer number of boxes there, the complicated clues, or
what?
>
> BTW, daughteroftheolddominion and I found 5 of the 6 Lake Anna
boxes,
> and they were all intact. We also found Jolly G-Man's Mr. Lee and
Mr.
> Grant duo, and they were in good shape, too, although I'm not sure
how
> safe Mr. Lee will be in the future because houses are being built
all
> around his hiding spot. :(
>
> -- Marsha
be "Feathers in your Cap." (although I have not done "Blurred
Borders" yet and it sound just as tough.) This is a series of 4
letterboxes over approx. 10 miles in a state forest. The clues are
given all in compass bearings from landmarks which makes it tough if
you mix up a landmark somewhere in the 10 miles. It took me 6 1/2
hours to complete the series. I must say that I did enjoy the
challenge.
moonstone_baby
--- In letterbox-usa@y..., "mlgainey"
> I went letterboxing with daughteroftheolddominion at Lake Anna State
> Park near Fredericksburg, Virginia recently, and it took us about
four
> hours to find most of the boxes there. Admittedly, I needed a break
> here and there, so I'm sure other boxers wouldn't need four hours
per
> se, yet there's no denying that the distances are rather great
between
> each box at this park, and judging by the comments in some of the
> logbooks, I wasn't the only boxer who found all the footwork in this
> large state park challenging.
>
> Large distances between individual boxes is also true for another
> Virginia state park, Pocahontas. And there seem to be a lot more
hills
> at Pocahontas, too.
>
> In my limited boxing experience, Pocahontas would seem to be the
most
> challenging spot in Virginia to look for boxes. Anyone agree?
Disagree?
>
> What about other states? And is this spot difficult because of the
> terrain, the sheer number of boxes there, the complicated clues, or
what?
>
> BTW, daughteroftheolddominion and I found 5 of the 6 Lake Anna
boxes,
> and they were all intact. We also found Jolly G-Man's Mr. Lee and
Mr.
> Grant duo, and they were in good shape, too, although I'm not sure
how
> safe Mr. Lee will be in the future because houses are being built
all
> around his hiding spot. :(
>
> -- Marsha
Re: Your State's Most Challenging Place to Box?
From: geoflyfisher (geoflyfisher@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2002-11-13 13:17:44 UTC
Pocahontas would seem to be the most
> challenging spot in Virginia to look for boxes. Anyone agree?
Disagree?
>
> What about other states? And is this spot difficult because of the
> terrain, the sheer number of boxes there, the complicated clues, or
what?
>
Hi Marsha,
In Ohio, we have two all day affairs:
John Bryan SP and Glen Helen Park(Which have a common border) have a
total of 35 boxes, including the 27 box Valley of the Frogs.
East Fork Lake State park has at least 23 boxes scattered in 3 major
areas of the park.
Worthy of mention are several other parks with about 8 boxes apiece.
Those Cincinnati boxers are really busy little boxers.
See
http://www.flyfisher-kayaks.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl
for a catalog of the boxes by park.
<
> challenging spot in Virginia to look for boxes. Anyone agree?
Disagree?
>
> What about other states? And is this spot difficult because of the
> terrain, the sheer number of boxes there, the complicated clues, or
what?
>
Hi Marsha,
In Ohio, we have two all day affairs:
John Bryan SP and Glen Helen Park(Which have a common border) have a
total of 35 boxes, including the 27 box Valley of the Frogs.
East Fork Lake State park has at least 23 boxes scattered in 3 major
areas of the park.
Worthy of mention are several other parks with about 8 boxes apiece.
Those Cincinnati boxers are really busy little boxers.
See
http://www.flyfisher-kayaks.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl
for a catalog of the boxes by park.
Re: Your State's Most Challenging Place to Box?
From: psycomommy2003 (ktborrelli@hotmail.com) |
Date: 2002-11-13 14:45:32 UTC
--- Sounds like Ladybugs boxes to me. She takes alot of steps
between boxes. I think she's into the hike and is making sure we get
exercise and fresh air! :-)
Psychomommy
In letterbox-usa@y..., "mlgainey" wrote:
> I went letterboxing with daughteroftheolddominion at Lake Anna State
> Park near Fredericksburg, Virginia recently, and it took us about
four
> hours to find most of the boxes there. Admittedly, I needed a break
> here and there, so I'm sure other boxers wouldn't need four hours
per
> se, yet there's no denying that the distances are rather great
between
> each box at this park, and judging by the comments in some of the
> logbooks, I wasn't the only boxer who found all the footwork in this
> large state park challenging.
>
> Large distances between individual boxes is also true for another
> Virginia state park, Pocahontas. And there seem to be a lot more
hills
> at Pocahontas, too.
>
> In my limited boxing experience, Pocahontas would seem to be the
most
> challenging spot in Virginia to look for boxes. Anyone agree?
Disagree?
>
> What about other states? And is this spot difficult because of the
> terrain, the sheer number of boxes there, the complicated clues, or
what?
>
> BTW, daughteroftheolddominion and I found 5 of the 6 Lake Anna
boxes,
> and they were all intact. We also found Jolly G-Man's Mr. Lee and
Mr.
> Grant duo, and they were in good shape, too, although I'm not sure
how
> safe Mr. Lee will be in the future because houses are being built
all
> around his hiding spot. :(
>
> -- Marsha
between boxes. I think she's into the hike and is making sure we get
exercise and fresh air! :-)
Psychomommy
In letterbox-usa@y..., "mlgainey"
> I went letterboxing with daughteroftheolddominion at Lake Anna State
> Park near Fredericksburg, Virginia recently, and it took us about
four
> hours to find most of the boxes there. Admittedly, I needed a break
> here and there, so I'm sure other boxers wouldn't need four hours
per
> se, yet there's no denying that the distances are rather great
between
> each box at this park, and judging by the comments in some of the
> logbooks, I wasn't the only boxer who found all the footwork in this
> large state park challenging.
>
> Large distances between individual boxes is also true for another
> Virginia state park, Pocahontas. And there seem to be a lot more
hills
> at Pocahontas, too.
>
> In my limited boxing experience, Pocahontas would seem to be the
most
> challenging spot in Virginia to look for boxes. Anyone agree?
Disagree?
>
> What about other states? And is this spot difficult because of the
> terrain, the sheer number of boxes there, the complicated clues, or
what?
>
> BTW, daughteroftheolddominion and I found 5 of the 6 Lake Anna
boxes,
> and they were all intact. We also found Jolly G-Man's Mr. Lee and
Mr.
> Grant duo, and they were in good shape, too, although I'm not sure
how
> safe Mr. Lee will be in the future because houses are being built
all
> around his hiding spot. :(
>
> -- Marsha
Re: Your State's Most Challenging Place to Box?
From: SpringChick (letterbox@attbi.com) |
Date: 2002-11-13 15:06:05 UTC
>What about other states? And is this spot difficult because of the
>terrain, the sheer number of boxes there, the complicated clues, or
>what?
I can't speak from my own personal experience in finding boxes in
Michigan, but from comments I've gotten back regarding boxes I've
placed here, those up in the sand dunes of Hoffmaster and Muskegon
State Park seem to draw the most "you really made us work for this
one" reactions. I agree they can be grueling climbs, especially when
it is 95 degrees out, but the view is so incredible once you get up
there, it is certainly worth it, even without a box as a prize!
Again, I think everyone has their own angle... some are in for the
hike, some for a challenge (physical and/or mental), others just want
to collect stamps. They all have their place. When I read trail
reports of finding 15-16 boxes in a day, I am in awe... as I would
consider 4-5 boxes to be a productive day. Of course, a big part of
it is where you live. The boxes on the East Coast are much closer to
each other simply because there are so many of them, just like the
concentration in the Cincinnati area.
I like it when the hike is not too long and there are many boxes in
one place when I am traveling, but for the most part -- I want a
challenge, mentally and physically and would much prefer spending 2
hours hiking 5 miles to get one box that tested me, than several
boxes that were all waiting in a row, waving their hands as I walked
by.
Deb
>terrain, the sheer number of boxes there, the complicated clues, or
>what?
I can't speak from my own personal experience in finding boxes in
Michigan, but from comments I've gotten back regarding boxes I've
placed here, those up in the sand dunes of Hoffmaster and Muskegon
State Park seem to draw the most "you really made us work for this
one" reactions. I agree they can be grueling climbs, especially when
it is 95 degrees out, but the view is so incredible once you get up
there, it is certainly worth it, even without a box as a prize!
Again, I think everyone has their own angle... some are in for the
hike, some for a challenge (physical and/or mental), others just want
to collect stamps. They all have their place. When I read trail
reports of finding 15-16 boxes in a day, I am in awe... as I would
consider 4-5 boxes to be a productive day. Of course, a big part of
it is where you live. The boxes on the East Coast are much closer to
each other simply because there are so many of them, just like the
concentration in the Cincinnati area.
I like it when the hike is not too long and there are many boxes in
one place when I am traveling, but for the most part -- I want a
challenge, mentally and physically and would much prefer spending 2
hours hiking 5 miles to get one box that tested me, than several
boxes that were all waiting in a row, waving their hands as I walked
by.
Deb
Re: Your State's Most Challenging Place to Box?
From: Brian, Ryan & Lori (bconnoll@marksonrosenthal.com) |
Date: 2002-11-13 16:08:14 UTC
--- In letterbox-usa@y..., "Janet" wrote:
> I have found the most challenging boxes in my state, Rhode Island,
to
> be "Feathers in your Cap." (although I have not done "Blurred
> Borders" yet and it sound just as tough.)
Hello,
"Blurred Borders" is an excellent series and I highly recommend it.
We where thinking about doing "Feathers in your Cap" this weekend.
"The Phantom" at the Blue Hills in Milton MA is a very challenging
find
also.
TeamGreenDragon
> I have found the most challenging boxes in my state, Rhode Island,
to
> be "Feathers in your Cap." (although I have not done "Blurred
> Borders" yet and it sound just as tough.)
Hello,
"Blurred Borders" is an excellent series and I highly recommend it.
We where thinking about doing "Feathers in your Cap" this weekend.
"The Phantom" at the Blue Hills in Milton MA is a very challenging
find
also.
TeamGreenDragon
Re: [LbNA] Re: Your State's Most Challenging Place to Box?
From: short spike (spike_678@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2002-11-13 10:28:05 UTC-08:00
i have found the most challenging box to be the nelson
county box. im not sure we ever actually found it, but
we did get one (i think by accident) near the end of
the clues called spy rock, which i cannot find listed
otherwise. we were huffing and whimpering at the top
of the FIRST hill, and a few directions could be added
as a lead-in to what is posted, but determined to come
home with something. woof, what a hike.
i WANT to place one in a wierd little place not
accessable by foot, but open to the public, but i
think a $15 fee per person might be a turnoff. (thats
for public transport to the spot, not to visit
independantly) any thoughts? i got all excited and
carved the stamp before i researched that far.
i got all 8 at pocahontas in one day. i must admit i
was gritting my teeth at pocahontas/powatan/john
smith, but i finally located them- and the treasure
was a nice reward once i had finally found those 3-
but it was worth the jaunt. i was WITHOUT child(ren)
and spouse expressed displeasure at spending ALL DAY
alone out of town, but it wasnt that tough to me.
i live in tidewater and still havent gotten them all
at seashore- the day we went child(ren) and spouse
became whiny and we had to give up.
i think legnthy instructions to one box would almost
have to be more challenging than a bunch in one park-
but i hate to see people tuck and run after one box
instead of seeing the whole park. i want to research
before my next jaunt the permission recieved at
specific parks... to plant a second box while i am
there. there are alot of beautiful places in virginia
that go unexplored/unenjoyed.
remember, its (usually) free, its not fattening, and
its fun.
spike_678
P3 Fiforget EX3
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county box. im not sure we ever actually found it, but
we did get one (i think by accident) near the end of
the clues called spy rock, which i cannot find listed
otherwise. we were huffing and whimpering at the top
of the FIRST hill, and a few directions could be added
as a lead-in to what is posted, but determined to come
home with something. woof, what a hike.
i WANT to place one in a wierd little place not
accessable by foot, but open to the public, but i
think a $15 fee per person might be a turnoff. (thats
for public transport to the spot, not to visit
independantly) any thoughts? i got all excited and
carved the stamp before i researched that far.
i got all 8 at pocahontas in one day. i must admit i
was gritting my teeth at pocahontas/powatan/john
smith, but i finally located them- and the treasure
was a nice reward once i had finally found those 3-
but it was worth the jaunt. i was WITHOUT child(ren)
and spouse expressed displeasure at spending ALL DAY
alone out of town, but it wasnt that tough to me.
i live in tidewater and still havent gotten them all
at seashore- the day we went child(ren) and spouse
became whiny and we had to give up.
i think legnthy instructions to one box would almost
have to be more challenging than a bunch in one park-
but i hate to see people tuck and run after one box
instead of seeing the whole park. i want to research
before my next jaunt the permission recieved at
specific parks... to plant a second box while i am
there. there are alot of beautiful places in virginia
that go unexplored/unenjoyed.
remember, its (usually) free, its not fattening, and
its fun.
spike_678
P3 Fiforget EX3
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Re: Your State's Most Challenging Place to Box?
From: rscarpen (RiskyNil@hotmail.com) |
Date: 2002-11-13 18:49:11 UTC
Challenging boxes? Sheeze, do you guys in the east even have
mountains?! ;o)
Why, there was a series that Don and Gwen hid here in Oregon
which required a TWENTY-FIVE mile to get. Paradise Lodge.
Practically hiked non-stop from sunrise to sunset to nab those
boxes. Even brough a water filter with me figuring I'd probably
run out long before I made it back to my car. And boy were my
feet sore getting back.
One of the letterboxes I placed requires a 12 mile hike
(more-or-less) with a nearly 5,000 foot elevation gain, which is a
pretty tough hike too.
Now I'm planning to hide a couple that nobody has a prayer of
reaching unless they do some backpacking to get to them.
Of course, if you're talking about cryptic clues that are tough to
solve, I spent about six months working out Spirit of Dartmoor.
And many people still haven't figured out Around the World in 80
Days.
I've though hiding one half way up the face of Half Dome might
be kind of cool too, but I'm not really a rock climber so I'll have to
let somebody else do that one. I'll be happy to carve a stamp for
it, though!
-- Ryan
mountains?! ;o)
Why, there was a series that Don and Gwen hid here in Oregon
which required a TWENTY-FIVE mile to get. Paradise Lodge.
Practically hiked non-stop from sunrise to sunset to nab those
boxes. Even brough a water filter with me figuring I'd probably
run out long before I made it back to my car. And boy were my
feet sore getting back.
One of the letterboxes I placed requires a 12 mile hike
(more-or-less) with a nearly 5,000 foot elevation gain, which is a
pretty tough hike too.
Now I'm planning to hide a couple that nobody has a prayer of
reaching unless they do some backpacking to get to them.
Of course, if you're talking about cryptic clues that are tough to
solve, I spent about six months working out Spirit of Dartmoor.
And many people still haven't figured out Around the World in 80
Days.
I've though hiding one half way up the face of Half Dome might
be kind of cool too, but I'm not really a rock climber so I'll have to
let somebody else do that one. I'll be happy to carve a stamp for
it, though!
-- Ryan
Re: [LbNA] Re: Your State's Most Challenging Place to Box?
From: HangGlider (hangglider@earthlink.net) |
Date: 2002-11-13 15:19:39 UTC-06:00
No problem! There's a road up to the top, so you only have to be proficient in rappeling to plant the box. ;-)
HangGlider
>-------Original Message-------
>I've though hiding one half way up the face of Half Dome might
>be kind of cool too, but I'm not really a rock climber so I'll >have to let somebody else do that one. I'll be happy to carve >a stamp for it, though!
P1 F5
HangGlider
>-------Original Message-------
>I've though hiding one half way up the face of Half Dome might
>be kind of cool too, but I'm not really a rock climber so I'll >have to let somebody else do that one. I'll be happy to carve >a stamp for it, though!
P1 F5
Re: Your State's Most Challenging Place to Box?
From: psycomommy2003 (ktborrelli@hotmail.com) |
Date: 2002-11-13 22:05:26 UTC
--- In letterbox-usa@y..., "rscarpen" wrote:
> Challenging boxes? Sheeze, do you guys in the east even have
> mountains?! ;o)
>
> Challenging boxes? Sheeze, do you guys in the east even have
> mountains?! ;o)
>
Re: [LbNA] Re: Your State's Most Challenging Place to Box?
From: Randy Hall (randy@mapsurfer.com) |
Date: 2002-11-13 17:29:57 UTC-05:00
> i WANT to place one in a wierd little place not
> accessable by foot, but open to the public, but i
> think a $15 fee per person might be a turnoff. [...]
> any thoughts?
Do it!
IMHO, the model for seekers is -- do the research as to what it will
take to locate the box, then decide whether to commit those resources.
Some people will be turned off by the fee, but some people are turned
off by all sorts of stuff ... you only have to please 1 person to make
it worthwhile, (and that can be yourself :-))
Cheers
PS - my colorado box (mapsurfer #25) is quite a long hike with elevation
gain, and quite a hard problem, but well worth it for the location.
Dunno if its the hardest in CO, but it could be ... it also may be
the farthest letterbox from the center of the earth, not sure :-)
Re: [LbNA] Re: Your State's Most Challenging Place to Box?
From: be ma (bema57@hotmail.com) |
Date: 2002-11-13 23:03:13 UTC
If you've found a great place, you should share it! If someone would rather
go for a box where there is no fee then they can. (Just list the fee on the
clues so they will know in advance) Don't deny yourself the fun of planning
the box and planting it. Someone finding it is just icing on the cake
(although, insecure person that I am, it's darn good icing!)
BeMa
>From: Randy Hall
>Reply-To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
>To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [LbNA] Re: Your State's Most Challenging Place to Box?
>Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:29:57 -0500
>
>
> > i WANT to place one in a wierd little place not
> > accessable by foot, but open to the public, but i
> > think a $15 fee per person might be a turnoff. [...]
> > any thoughts?
>
>Do it!
>
>IMHO, the model for seekers is -- do the research as to what it will
>take to locate the box, then decide whether to commit those resources.
>
>Some people will be turned off by the fee, but some people are turned
>off by all sorts of stuff ... you only have to please 1 person to make
>it worthwhile, (and that can be yourself :-))
>
>Cheers
>
>PS - my colorado box (mapsurfer #25) is quite a long hike with elevation
>gain, and quite a hard problem, but well worth it for the location.
>Dunno if its the hardest in CO, but it could be ... it also may be
>the farthest letterbox from the center of the earth, not sure :-)
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go for a box where there is no fee then they can. (Just list the fee on the
clues so they will know in advance) Don't deny yourself the fun of planning
the box and planting it. Someone finding it is just icing on the cake
(although, insecure person that I am, it's darn good icing!)
BeMa
>From: Randy Hall
>Reply-To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
>To: letterbox-usa@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [LbNA] Re: Your State's Most Challenging Place to Box?
>Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 17:29:57 -0500
>
>
> > i WANT to place one in a wierd little place not
> > accessable by foot, but open to the public, but i
> > think a $15 fee per person might be a turnoff. [...]
> > any thoughts?
>
>Do it!
>
>IMHO, the model for seekers is -- do the research as to what it will
>take to locate the box, then decide whether to commit those resources.
>
>Some people will be turned off by the fee, but some people are turned
>off by all sorts of stuff ... you only have to please 1 person to make
>it worthwhile, (and that can be yourself :-))
>
>Cheers
>
>PS - my colorado box (mapsurfer #25) is quite a long hike with elevation
>gain, and quite a hard problem, but well worth it for the location.
>Dunno if its the hardest in CO, but it could be ... it also may be
>the farthest letterbox from the center of the earth, not sure :-)
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Re: Your State's Most Challenging Place to Box?
From: Kathy (Btrplc2b@aol.com) |
Date: 2002-11-14 12:00:10 UTC
--- In letterbox-usa@y..., "psycomommy2003" wrote:
> --- Sounds like Ladybugs boxes to me. She takes alot of steps
> between boxes. I think she's into the hike and is making sure we
get
> exercise and fresh air! :-)
>
Guilty as charged, psycomommy. The time I'm able to devote to hiking
and letterboxing is scarce, so when I'm out, I'm usually out for the
day and try to make the most of it. I equate challenging hikes with
elevation because that's what challenges my body the most, and
challenging letterboxing with boxes that take several attempts to
find. In that regard, I'd have to count Nelson County as the most
challenging I've attempted...the elevation was more than I was
prepared for at the time and I came away without the box. On the way
to spy rock we were turned back by a huge rattler lying across the
trail, so that hike/box is on my list to revisit the next time I've
got time and am up for the challenge.
As for the mountains in the east....you only have to drive through
southwest Virginia and the Smokies in Tennessee to answer that one.
Two recent trips to Tennessee have made a believer out of me! The
mountains there took my breath away...and I wasn't even hiking at the
time! Anyone in the area of Davy Crockett State Park outside
Greeneville TN should visit and snag the Davy Crockett box...it's an
awesome hike along a ledge following a river and a very unusual stamp
as reward.
Ladybug
> --- Sounds like Ladybugs boxes to me. She takes alot of steps
> between boxes. I think she's into the hike and is making sure we
get
> exercise and fresh air! :-)
>
Guilty as charged, psycomommy. The time I'm able to devote to hiking
and letterboxing is scarce, so when I'm out, I'm usually out for the
day and try to make the most of it. I equate challenging hikes with
elevation because that's what challenges my body the most, and
challenging letterboxing with boxes that take several attempts to
find. In that regard, I'd have to count Nelson County as the most
challenging I've attempted...the elevation was more than I was
prepared for at the time and I came away without the box. On the way
to spy rock we were turned back by a huge rattler lying across the
trail, so that hike/box is on my list to revisit the next time I've
got time and am up for the challenge.
As for the mountains in the east....you only have to drive through
southwest Virginia and the Smokies in Tennessee to answer that one.
Two recent trips to Tennessee have made a believer out of me! The
mountains there took my breath away...and I wasn't even hiking at the
time! Anyone in the area of Davy Crockett State Park outside
Greeneville TN should visit and snag the Davy Crockett box...it's an
awesome hike along a ledge following a river and a very unusual stamp
as reward.
Ladybug
Re: [LbNA] Re: Your State's Most Challenging Place to Box?
From: Susan Pederson (lpfrognmac@yahoo.com) |
Date: 2002-11-14 10:19:34 UTC-08:00
Spike-
I also live in Tidewater and I haven't barely scratched the surface of getting all of them. Found one of your's though! Have you tried the Daily Break one?
Lpfrog- Susan- Lpfrognmac
short spike <spike_678@yahoo.com> wrote:
i have found the most challenging box to be the nelson
county box. im not sure we ever actually found it, but
we did get one (i think by accident) near the end of
the clues called spy rock, which i cannot find listed
otherwise. we were huffing and whimpering at the top
of the FIRST hill, and a few directions could be added
as a lead-in to what is posted, but determined to come
home with something. woof, what a hike.
i WANT to place one in a wierd little place not
accessable by foot, but open to the public, but i
think a $15 fee per person might be a turnoff. (thats
for public transport to the spot, not to visit
independantly) any thoughts? i got all excited and
carved the stamp before i researched that far.
i got all 8 at pocahontas in one day. i must admit i
was gritting my teeth at pocahontas/powatan/john
smith, but i finally located them- and the treasure
was a nice reward once i had finally found those 3-
but it was worth the jaunt. i was WITHOUT child(ren)
and spouse expressed displeasure at spending ALL DAY
alone out of town, but it wasnt that tough to me.
i live in tidewater and still havent gotten them all
at seashore- the day we went child(ren) and spouse
became whiny and we had to give up.
i think legnthy instructions to one box would almost
have to be more challenging than a bunch in one park-
but i hate to see people tuck and run after one box
instead of seeing the whole park. i want to research
before my next jaunt the permission recieved at
specific parks... to plant a second box while i am
there. there are alot of beautiful places in virginia
that go unexplored/unenjoyed.
remember, its (usually) free, its not fattening, and
its fun.
spike_678
P3 Fiforget EX3
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